Hattie Jane's Story, as told to her great grandson, Dr James Phillips
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(This is the earliest picture we have of Grams. It was taken about the time of her first marriage to Harry Stewart. She was 16. The picture is distorted but you can tell that she was a very pretty girl.)
Part of an of
interview in a Chickasaw hearing concerning Sarah Jane Lambert Paul.
Question. Mrs. Paul
, state how your husband, Sam Paul,
during the time you lived with him ,
was he good to you or not?
Answer, He was not.
Question. In what
respect was he not good?
Answer. Every way that
was barbarous.
Question. What do you
know of his relations with other women during that time?
Answer. He was with
them all the time -- he kept them all the time.
Question. Well state
how he kept them and where?
Answer. He kept them
in my house.
Same hearing, but we jump down through many questions and
answers after Sarah names illegitimate children that were born to Sam Paul and
the different women whom she names, to this point where Sarah is further questioned
about Jim Ross and her relationship with him and how Sam Paul treated her.
Mattie Paul Ebisch Willie Paul
Sammie Paul
Pictures of three of Sam Paul's illegitimate children
Answer. Yes he tried
to shoot me lots of times.
Question. Describe one
instance of what he did and said to you ?
Answer. He came home –
he was just like a stranger—came in that time asked if I heard about some men
getting killed and I said I did and he just run a pistol up my head and said he would show me how they were
killed, and tried to kill me but I broke away.
A few questions later she is again asked about testimony
Hugh A. Campbell has given on October 24, 1902. Sarah is asked if she knows
that Hugh Campbell was present in the Cherokee nation near where she was living
with Jim Ross. She says no.
Question He mentions a
man by the name of Jim Ross. Were you ever married to Jim Ross?
Answer. No Sir.
Question. There is a
note in the record that you married Jim Ross and had a child by him; Did you?
Answer. No sir I never
had a child by any one but Sam Paul.
Question. Why Mrs.
Paul was it that you continued to remain as the wife of Sam Paul after he treated you so badly and
brought this lewd woman to his house?
Answer. Simply because
I had to. He tried to run me off and I returned to my father and asked him to
take us. He told me it was better for one to be killed than the whole family.
Question. Was your
father afraid of Sam Paul?
Answer. Yes, sir.
Question. What was the
disposition of Sam Paul? How many men
had he killed in his life?
Answer. I suppose fifteen or sixteen.
Jim and His Daughter Dakotah in Indian Dress
My Name is
Jim Phillips. I am the great great grandson of Samuel Ikard Paul and Sarah Jane
Lambert Paul. I will tell this story through the eyes and words of my great
grandmother Hattie Jane Paul AKA Hattie Corley.
My father Sam Paul was a very powerful and
feared man in Indian Territory and what became Oklahoma. He was a lawman and a
Senator among the Chickasaw people. He killed a lot of outlaws in early Indian
Territory. My mother was Sarah Jane
Lambert Paul. My mother and father fought a lot over everything. Many times
according to my mother Sam would come in drunk and threaten to shoot or kill
her and she would take off to the hills to hide herself and my brothers till
Sam sobered up. She said that he would bring his girlfriends, prostitutes, and
lovers home and kick her out of the bedroom and make her sleep in the kitchen
on a pallet on the floor or a cot in the corner of the room. Mother said at
times she would get so mad at him that she would insult him. Sarah said she
just couldn’t keep her mouth shut and would say some stupid thing and he would
threaten to kill or shoot her again. One time Sam came home and asked my mother
if she had heard about the men he killed and she said, "Yes, did you shoot
them in the back?" She said he rolled his big pistol up to her head and
asked if she wanted him to show her how he killed them.
This all sets the background for my birth.
I have two brothers Willie and Buck Paul. My mother and father fought a lot but
they had four children. I was the last child born to Sarah and Sam Paul.
My father had been arrested for killing two
outlaws and both of them were white men. Judge Parker hated my father and
thought that he killed too many outlaws instead of bringing them to court,
especially white outlaws. My father Sam Paul had been arrested just after my
mother got pregnant with me. She felt that this time Parker would hang my father
and she would be free of him at last. One time while Sam was on a rampage
Mother went back home to her father and mother Hiram and Emily Lambert and
begged them to take her in. But Grandpa Hiram bolted the door and told Sarah
that she had made her decisions and that it would be better that only one would
be killed rather than the whole family killed..
My father Sam
Paul was arrested in July 1882 and he was taken to Fort Smith Arkansas before
Judge Parker. He was in jail there with Jim Ross. When Jim Ross got out on bail
my mother Sarah looked Jim Ross up and made a deal with him to testify against
Sam in court to say he shot down that white boy in cold blooded murder. Mother
had promised to pay Jim Ross a lot of money to hide her in the Cherokee nation while
she had her baby so that no would know about she had Sam’s last child and no
one would take me from her. She also had him promise to take Buck and Willie
and hide them too. Mother knew that if Sam died or was hung that it was
possible for his family to take his children from her because they were
powerful politicians among the Chickasaws. My mother was not romantically
interested in Jim Ross at all but he was her road out of a very bad situation.
After I was born my mother gave me to her
sister Juliana Lambert Corley to hide and to raise as her child.. I would get
to be with my mother and aunt all the time, no matter what happened to Buck and
Willie my brothers.
My father Sam Paul did get out of prison by
a presidential pardon. My mother moved in with her family and Sam divorced her
and got custody of my two brothers Buck and Willie Paul.
Over the years I got to be around my father
a lot but I don’t think he ever knew who I really was. I always knew that he
was my father as long as I can remember.
He thought I was his niece and not his daughter. He treated me real good
and I wasn’t afraid of him as my mother was. I went to the Paul mansion many
times and my father and grandpa Smith Paul would give me a gold or silver coin
out of this great big strongbox full of a lot of gold and silver coins.
I watched my father give speeches many times
and people would shoot at him and he would keep on speaking just like it didn’t
happen. He was a very handsome man with steel gray eyes just like mine.
I saw him in
a carnival on the forth of July gathering and he used to stand like a statue
real still. He did not blink an eye and you couldn’t even see him breath. He
was so handsome standing there dressed in his nice suits. The girls would come
by and look at him real close to see if he was real or a statue. He would just
stand there, as I watched him from a distance. One girl and her boyfriend came
by several times and she looked at him real close. She finally reached out and
touched him and he said "Boo!" She screamed real load and fainted and
fell on the ground. Everybody laughed and
they had to revive her. That was
my father.
Sam Paul, about 1890
To be continued
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